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Re: Electric Cars

Post by mwbrown » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:34 pm

A car has been spotted in town with a sign "Hua Hin EV Charging Station". I suspect the charger is at the PEA office, I'll check it out soon, but if anybody spots the car, please ask the driver where the charger is and post back here. Thanks!

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by mwbrown » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:59 pm

Yes, the charging station is at the PEA office. I made a video about it here:

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Post by PeteC » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:06 pm

Nissan electric cars to hit Thai market next year

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/ ... O/30325935

Chiba, Japan -- Nissan has officially announced that it will offer the LEAF electric vehicle in Thailand.

The new model will first come as an import from Japan next year, but Nissan also plans local production Antoine Barthes, president of Nissan Motor Thailand, said Nissan is working with the Thai government to strike the right conditions for electric vehicles (EV). "Nissan is the first manufacturer to officially announce its intent of offering a mainstream intelligent EV jn Thailand," he said at the global launch of the new LEAF in Japan. Apart from electric powertrain with a range of 400 kilometres, the LEAF also comes with Pro Pilot, Nissan's version of autonomous drive. Barthes said last week that Nissan is interested in producing EVs in Thailand, but needs to make sure they are affordable and that production makes business sense.
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Re: Electric Cars

Post by pharvey » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:58 pm

PeteC wrote:
Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:06 pm

Barthes said last week that Nissan is interested in producing EVs in Thailand, but needs to make sure they are affordable and that production makes business sense.
Quite - what are the import duties on motor vehicles in Thailand? Similar to those in China from memory - bl**dy high!

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Post by StevePIraq » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:01 pm

And as stated on the BBC "Electric cars tend to achieve about 20-25% below the European quoted figures in real-world tests." so you are only looking at 320km or less for the Nissan Leaf in Thailand.
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Post by Nereus » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:06 pm

New Nissan Leaf has one-pedal driving mode for both accelerating and braking

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... nd-braking

Updated electric car has longer range, more power and sleeker design, while undercutting rivals from Tesla and General Motors on price

Nissan has launched a new longer-ranged version of its Leaf electric car that can be driven by just one “e-Pedal” for both accelerating and braking.

The new Leaf can travel up to 235 miles between charges under European driving conditions and can be fully charged in 40 minutes with fast chargers, although electric cars typically run 20-25% shorter distances under real-world driving conditions.

Nissan says that its new e-Pedal, which drives the car forward when depressed and brakes when pressure is released, should increase driving efficiency and be all that a driver needs to operate the vehicle for around 90% of urban driving. The Leaf will slow to a halt and can hold itself steady on an incline without the need to depress a brake pedal, of which one is included for emergency or aggressive braking.

Most electric and hybrid vehicles have the option to use regenerative braking when not actively accelerating or maintaining speed, which means they decelerate more rapidly when the accelerator pedal is released than petrol or diesel-only cars, turning the excess speed into electricity to charge the battery. The e-Pedal is the logical extension of that mode using both regenerative systems and brakes, but like regenerative braking, can be disabled by the driver.

The updated version of the world’s most popular electric vehicle, of which 283,000 have been sold since its launch in 2010, hopes to better compete with newer entrants from Tesla and General Motors, undercutting them on price by around $5,000 (£3,800) in the US. The Leaf falls short on range, however, with both rivals offering larger batteries so they can drive further between charges.

The restyled 2018 Leaf is lower and more sculpted than its bulbous predecessor, billed as sleek and aerodynamic to maximise range. It also comes with optional new “ProPilot” semi-autonomous driving features that can keep the car centred in a motorway lane and stop it from hitting objects in front, as well as being able to park itself. The new Leaf also has 38% more power, increased to 147 horsepower reaching a top speed of 89mph, which again falls well below specification offered by rivals.

The new Leaf is rated for 248 miles in Japan, 235 miles in Europe, but only 150 miles in the US, due to different range tests for electric vehicles in different territories. Nissan said it would launch a longer, US 200-mile rated version of the Leaf in 2019 that would be more expensive. The 200-mile mark is considered by many industry experts as the range needed to ease driver fears that they’ll run out of juice before ending their trips in the US, but even then range is still the biggest obstacle to widespread adoption of electric cars.

Several breakthroughs in battery technology are likely needed before they become affordable and practical for the majority of regular consumers.

Koichi Sugimoto, analyst at Mitsubishi UFJ Morgan Stanley Securities in Tokyo, says many automakers are selling green models because of tightening emissions regulations, especially in Europe and California, rather than because of what he called “natural sales growth.”

“There really is no outstanding attractive quality about an electric vehicle,” he said, noting drawbacks such as finding charging stations, as well as the time needed to charge even with fast chargers.

The Leaf remains an important part of Yokohama-based Nissan’s branding as a symbol of the company’s commitment to the environment.

“It’s more about an effort to make a better society, so we are looking at a decade or two decades ahead,” said Sugimoto.
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Re: Electric Cars

Post by RCer » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:18 pm

I'm still struggling with the infrastructure thing. I can't speak for the Uk, but the US system is horrible.

It seems to me they are putting the cart before the horse by making electric cars mandatory before figuring out how they are going to recharge them.

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by HHCanuck » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:33 am

With populations moving to live in the cities it will be interesting what solutions governments will come up with to be able to charge electric cars. Look at Bangkok for example. Parking in near impossible to find and often people double park. Can you imagine asking Thais to share power outlets. I keep a condo in Bangkok and I never have the same parking spot not to mention people park derelict cars and even boats in the parking spaces. Building management does nothing about it. How will sharing power ever be organized without a blood bath in Bangkok.

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by oakdale160 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:50 am

I have a friend who recently drove his electric car from Texas to WDC.He said that it took a lot of planning but was not too difficult.It took a day longer that if he had been in an ICE car but the recharge facilities really get better every month. Even some fast-food outlets have charging stations.

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by PeteC » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:48 am

I don't think anyone has linked to this article yet. It's a start for Thailand. Ignore the interwoven advertising for other things. Pete :cheers:

Thailand Gears Towards Creating An Electric Mobility Society With Zero Emission

....."The agreement will see the launch of ChargeNow – the world’s largest network of public charging stations for electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids of any make and model – in Thailand with 50 stations nationwide during an initial network preparation phase."......

http://pattayatoday.net/life-leisure/au ... -emission/
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Re: Electric Cars

Post by oakdale160 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:58 am

When you hear sceptics talking about electric cars--remember when the automobile was invented, there was a huge body of opinion that said that with trains for long distance and horses for short distance that automobiles were just a fad and would not make it.

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by pharvey » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:30 pm

About as "Green" as you can get for an Electric Car..... :thumb:

http://www.setec-power.com/projects/974525-976086.html

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Post by oakdale160 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:13 am

Talking of discounts, some Canadian provinces are offering huge rebates if you buy an electric car. As much as $C14,000 (£8750) and also another rebate on installing home charging stations.

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by loua_oz » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:11 pm

I own a Toyota Prius Alpha, a hybrid.

She can go 1,000km with one 42L gasoline fill, city drive, start-stop, only. On the road, she is economical, by advancements in SUS (internal combustion engines), 1,800cc car burning only 5L per 100km.

Sure, there is a battery, the same one that has not essentially changed since 200 years ago when they were invented.
But my city council likes that and I pay far less tax then on some other car.

Panasonic battery is within my car.

How naive are the prognoses that the electric cars are the future? It has been available and possible before. For
decades, soon to be a century ago.
The Ford Museum, in Detroit, has a map of 38 electric cars charging stations, at the Manhattan, New York, nobody wanted that. It was year 1936.

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Re: Electric Cars

Post by STEVE G » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:25 pm

Yes, apparently there were over 30,000 electric cars registered in the US in 1900!

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