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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby Spitfire » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:13 pm

Total joke....they can introduce as many ideas as they like from the "Ministry of Knee-Jerk Reactions & Lofty Ideas" but it will change sweet FA until they get a grip on the assholes driving the vehicles and actually deploy some meaningful enforcement....dream on.

As have said before...problem is, no-one on the ground actually give a toss.
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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby prcscct » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:48 pm

HHTel wrote:
prcscct wrote:So we're all on the same page, is the below a good representation of that they're talking about? If it is, it simply seems like a big van to me. :? Pete :cheers:

EDIT: The photo is labeled as "Izuzu micro-bus". Seems to be in use in Jakarta.

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Nothing like the micro-bus I know. As has been stated, they were purple and comfortable and efficient.


Yes, my post and Nereus post crossed. Will be interesting to see though if they stick with the purple type design or go with something new. Pete :cheers:
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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby prcscct » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:34 am

Good to see this man ripping into them. :thumb:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... ans-stupid

It's the vans, stupid

"New Year was another highway slaughter, the bloodiest long weekend ever recorded, which is saying a lot when you're already starting with the world's second most sanguinary roadways, and then get worse than that for a week.

To outdo the most murderous "seven dangerous days" in Thai history required the deaths of 478 people, or one every 21 minutes of every hour of every day.

Unable to come up with a highway safety battle plan, the military leaders by chance found a scapegoat. Never mind that 3,206 of the 3,919 accidents involved motorcycles. Ignore the glaring statistic that 2,661 were the result of excessive drink or speed.

The real villain is the van.".....
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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby HHTel » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:48 pm

Good article. Very true. Also quite brave as 'You are not allowed to criticise the government or the military'. Careful that Section 44 is not used against him.

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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby buksida » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:17 pm

HERE’S WHY FEWER WILL DIE ON THAI ROADS IF VANS REPLACED
When the New Year’s holiday ended in tragedy for the families of 25 people killed in a flaming wreck in Chonburi, the military government responded with a plan to replace the ubiquitous vans that travel between provinces with minibuses.

While the idea was met with skepticism by a public suddenly demanding urgent solutions, experts who met to discuss the root causes for Thailand’s dubious rise to lead the world in road fatalities agreed vans should not be used for traveling across provinces.

“The vans which we are using are modified. It creates more risks,” said Thanaphong Jinwong, a member of governmental road safety organization. “When the incidents happens, it’s difficult to rescue passengers from them.”

Under pressure to rein in the carnage, the Department of Land Transportation said it will move forward a plan to phase out the vans in favor of 20-seat buses – originally slated for 2019 – to begin in the middle of this year.

With 215 accidents, vans were involved in the most public transportation accidents last year, according to a study. Nine people were killed on average and 100 injured each month.

The top causes were reckless driving and aftermarket vehicle modifications which turn them into death traps.

http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/tran ... -replaced/
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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby HHTel » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:33 pm

As has already been said, the vans are not reckless. Put those same drivers into any vehicle and the same will happen.

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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby Nereus » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:30 pm

Van operators face end-March GPS deadline

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... s-deadline

A Global Positioning System (GPS) will have to be installed in all 4,000 vans being used by operators of joint public-private van services by the end of March.

After March 31, if any such van is found to not have GPS, a warning will be given first, said Transport Co acting president Amnat Unardngam.

Van operators will be fined if they are later found to have still not complied.

The Transport Co, which grants transport concessions to inter-provincial van services, is sorting out vans according to types of operators for a possible plan to make them switch to micro-buses instead, said Pol Gen Amnat.

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Some vans are operated by juristic persons and others are personal vans owned by individuals, he said, adding one operator now owns close to 3,000 vans.

Meanwhile, a source at the Department of Land Transport said Monday that the department has proposed new regulations aimed at curbing road accidents to the National Council for Peace and Order.

The proposals deal mainly with stricter punishments for those violating traffic regulations, said the source.
The punishment for driving without a licence, for instance, would be raised from a maximum one month's jail sentence to a maximum three months' imprisonment, said the source.

Under the regulations, private operators of public transport services could face a range of tougher penalties such as the suspension of a driver's licence for violating traffic regulations, or licence revocation in case of repeated misconduct, said the source.

Car drivers in general will also face tougher punishment including driving licence revocation if they are found guilty in traffic violation cases such as running a red light causing death, or drink-driving resulting in deaths, said the source.
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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby HHTel » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:42 am

Looks like the usual communication failure. Only a few days ago, the following was said:

he Transport Ministry has ordered that all 6,400 interprovincial passenger vans operating out of Bangkok be replaced with microbuses by year-end to improve safety. The 6,431 vans operating under concessions from the state-owned Transport Co would be phased out starting from July 1, Deputy Transport Minister Pichit Akrathit said on Friday.



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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby Nereus » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:36 am

Is this the usual piss poor reporting, or is it true?
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Govt axes renewal of van permits

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The Transport Ministry has abolished the renewal and issuance of passenger van permits as part of measures to replace the vehicles with minibuses in a bid to curb traffic accidents.

Speaking after a meeting on the safety of van transport, Deputy Transport Minister Pichit Akrathit said the meeting agreed to terminate the extension and issuing of all passenger van permits nationwide as of Thursday.

All vans will be replaced with minibuses with a minimum of 20 seats. Ending passenger van transport is part of the government's plan to decrease the number of casualties from van-related road accidents.

As for existing vans which are currently in operation, Mr Pichit said they are required to complete vehicle inspections and be installed with global positioning systems by the end of March to monitor drivers, and put in fireproof seat cushions. However, those vans will be allowed to operate for a maximum period of 10 years.

Mr Pichit said new minibuses were scheduled to operate on 13 routes with a distance not exceeding 300 kilometres, as set out by state-owned Transport Co Ltd, starting from July 1.

The route change is aimed at encouraging van operators to invest in minibus transport. The Department of Land Transport (DLT) will also help operators who are interested in the new mode of transport to manage their operating routes.

The department is working on measures which will help lessen the effects on van operators of changing vehicles as much as possible, he added.

Meanwhile, Transport Co vice-president Nopparat Karoonyavanich said the 13 routes were now-defunct lines which were revoked by the company earlier.

A total of 55 minibuses will be put in place for all routes. The first two pilot routes are Bangkok to Ayutthaya and Bangkok to Saraburi with 10 minibuses for each route.

Mr Nopparat said the agency is drafting the terms of reference for the procurement of the minibuses, adding the document will be tabled at a meeting of the firm's committee for consideration.

DLT director-general Sanit Promwong urged all van operators to replace their vehicles with minibuses.
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Re: 90kph speed limit for passenger vans proposed

Postby Big Boy » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:14 am

However, those vans will be allowed to operate for a maximum period of 10 years.

This type of statement never fails to amaze me. It's a serious problem, so you're only getting 10 years to do something about it :?
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