The SUV Thread

Post by **STEVE G** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:12 pm

musungu wrote:Are you people playing a GUESSING GAME regarding the new Fortuner or do you have any realknowledge about specifications?

I imagine we're playing a guessing game like most things on a thread like this, that's why you get it for free on a web forum, things that we really know about, we do for a living!

Post by **Bristolian** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:03 pm

musungu wrote:Are you people playing a GUESSING GAME regarding the new Fortuner or do you have any realknowledge about specifications?

For sure anyone on this forum, not working for Toyota, is playing a guessing game. Like every manufacturer of any product, Toyota are playing a launch game; keep the competitors and customers guessing and stalling the purchase of a competitive product until theirs is ready......it's the established norm.

We can all guess the the new Fortuner will be better than the current offering. Where will it be better is the question. We all have our opinions but no fact. If the Aussies are responsible for design we can expect better suspension ( it needs it), a better appointed cabin, a more open space when the 6th and 7th seat are folded: i.e. folded down to provide a flat and open loading space. If I were looking at how to improve on a proven platform, these are the areas that I would look at.........but who knows.

Post by **PeteC** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:04 am

New 2015 Toyota Fortuner launched

Photos at link.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/news/62 ... r-launched

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:24 am

Sorry - but I still wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.........

Post by **STEVE G** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:55 pm

Terry wrote:Sorry - but I still wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.........

Well they're basically a Hilux and my Hilux is ten years old this year and there's still nothing wrong with it so on that basis, I would buy a Fortuner if I needed that kind of vehicle. When I bought it, I was going to keep it for ten years but looking at the condition of it now, I'm going to try another ten years at least. For me, reliability and strength are the primary requirements of a vehicle in a country like Thailand which still has a lot of bad and unmade roads.

Post by **StevePIraq** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:01 pm

New fortuner has a botched up third row of seats, moved from side drop down which was bad enough to normal front facing seating but so ridiculously designed to compete with competitors. Still a pick up if that's what one likes.

I recently bought a Nissan X - Trail 2.5 petrol couldn't be happier given the limited availability in Thailand.
No diesel for me

Post by **StevePIraq** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:06 pm

Thinking of Diesel, think again

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-33254803

Post by **kendo** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:08 pm

STEVE G wrote:
Terry wrote:Sorry - but I still wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.........
Well they're basically a Hilux and my Hilux is ten years old this year and there's still nothing wrong with it so on that basis, I would buy a Fortuner if I needed that kind of vehicle. When I bought it, I was going to keep it for ten years but looking at the condition of it now, I'm going to try another ten years at least. For me, reliability and strength are the primary requirements of a vehicle in a country like Thailand which still has a lot of bad and unmade roads.

Steve did you ever see the Top Gear episode with the unbreakable Hilux.

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:09 pm

STEVE G wrote:.........Well they're basically a Hilux and my Hilux is ten years old this year and there's still nothing wrong with it so on that basis, I would buy a Fortuner if I needed that kind of vehicle. When I bought it, I was going to keep it for ten years but looking at the condition of it now, I'm going to try another ten years at least. For me, reliability and strength are the primary requirements of a vehicle in a country like Thailand which still has a lot of bad and unmade roads.

Don't get me wrong Steve - the Hilux is a brilliant truck - I STILL have a 23 year old version (Same as Clarkson & Co tried to destroy) and I will never part with it - it's still going strong.

But nobody will ever convince me that the Fortuner is nothing more than a Hilux (Vigo, Veto or whatever variant you want) with a bit of metal on the back and with two extra ill conceived fold down seats which the new model STILL has.
They may have improved the ride a bit, but it's still a con - when you consider the price difference between a fully loaded double cab and the equivalent Fortuner.

I've said it - so I'll shut up now.

Post by **STEVE G** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:45 pm

They may have improved the ride a bit, but it's still a con - when you consider the price difference between a fully loaded double cab and the equivalent Fortuner.

I agree that the double cab is a better deal, that's what I have but a lot of the difference in price is due to a different rate of government purchase tax and you'll pay that if you buy any SUV instead of a pick up truck.

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:01 pm

STEVE G wrote:..............I agree that the double cab is a better deal, that's what I have but a lot of the difference in price is due to a different rate of government purchase tax and you'll pay that if you buy any SUV instead of a pick up truck.

Well aware of that Steve - but even with the tax difference I still think that the Fortuner and the other pick-up based vehicles are a con.
Just my view............

Post by **dtaai-maai** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:49 pm

Terry wrote:I've said it - so I'll shut up now.

Terry wrote:Well aware of that Steve - but even with the tax difference I still think that the Fortuner and the other pick-up based vehicles are a con.
Just my view............

Typical Spurs fan - never knows when to give up!

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:11 pm

and furthermore

Post by **musungu** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:27 am

I have seen above many comments on the Foruner which claims it is basically a Vigo truck so can any of you experts compare the good and bad with the other subjects- as I need to order and the 2015 models are new and available.
Thank you

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:42 am

Fortuner ............I've said enough already.
Honda CRV...........I'm a great Honda fan - have a 14 yr old Civic and a 2 yr old Accord .......simply brilliant cars for the money. The CRV has the same build quality and rides like a car - not a truck. Great service from Honda in Hua Hin. Would thoroughly recommend. However it is only 5 seats - but that's all you may want.
Mitsubishi Shogun.........Loaded with goodies for the money and a good all round truck, but no real personal experience of it.
Chevrolet Captiva...........Good design for a 'compact' 7 seater. Not as big as the other SUV's but much superior ride - it's based on a car chasis. Bought one new last year and it's been terrific - also has E85 gasahol option. Only one problem - the dealer in Hua Hin is shite..................

But then I've probably been spoilt by Honda.

If 7 seats are not that important, I would go with the CRV
If you need 7 seats occasionally then the Captiva is a better option.

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