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I know it is aimed at cyclists but got me thinking could it legally replace a motorcycle helmet?
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/ ... sh-collar/

I like riding but disliking wearing a helmet as it is too hot.I think a product like this would be safer IMO than some of the present Thai crash helmets that most wear mainly to avoid fines.
It would have to be cheaper(at the moment 260 pounds) but if popular and mass produced it should be possible.
Could be problem though each time you were stopped by the police you had to demonstrate your scarf was a safety device.
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12,000+ baht kinda pricey!
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Dr Mike wrote:12,000+ baht kinda pricey!
Cheaper than brain surgery.

200 Baht helmet 200 Baht head :wink:
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Couldnt agree more
i would never put my head in a cheap lid
Before i gave it up and come here i raced bikes for 15yrs
and would never dream of racing with a cheap lid on...
You had to have a one with a ACU gold rose on to meet
the requirements....

I have tested a few lids over the years...grass /sky / grass /sky
repeat...and had a bad one in 97 when i had head injuries
from the outside it looks ok but all the inner shell and padding
was flattened and it was wrote off...
A helmets only designed to do its job once..

These lids over here look like the
paper mashe pigs u used to made at school with the baloon inside
( you popped the baloon when it hardened ) ....

Mind what scares me more it how fast you bare skin disappears on
tarmac...at 20,30,40 ,50mph... ooooooh....

i used to get bad friction burns and cuts with full leathers on...
Seen some shocking abrasion injuries over here on folk...
from kids upwards....Seen a baby about 6 months old the other
day looked like he had been down the road...with his parents...
they were battered about as well....

Stick to the old pick up for now!!! ...mind im missing 2 wheels !!!

Hope everyone is well

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did somebody steal them? I hope you reported the theft
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It may offer impact protection, but what about abrasion and penetration?

It would need a sensor to keep it from going off in trivial situations otherwise a speed bump would set it off. I know a guy who was riding his mountain bike without helmet at less than walking speed. He fell over, hit his head on a rock and has been in a coma ever since. Air bag would not have saved him because the Gs he experienced before impact were well below what any sensor would be set at.

Also I've never been keen on wearing an explosive device around my neck.
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Hahahai....Im going to run outside now to do a wheel count
as im sure the truck had 4 wheels maybe 2 have been
nicked or more likely fell off...
as everything else has slowly dropped off it!!!!

Getting back to helmets...you are really in the lap of the gods
come crash time...

The guy you know (homer) thats just tragic....
from my background especially on road circuits
i have had too many friends lost or hurting badly...
some are pure freak incidents...

and i wouldnt fancy an airbag going off around my neck!!!

you should be able to get a suit that you just pull a rip cord
and a big bubble just envelopes you...like them ball things
that people strap themselves into and go downhill...pow!!!

Anyhow better go do something as the wife giving the lookl :D
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...you should be able to get a suit that you just pull a rip cord
and a big bubble just envelopes you...like them ball things
that people strap themselves into and go downhill...pow!!!
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Even got one for the elderly who fall. Save Richard some bruises :mrgreen:

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Seen the Dainese suit...great idea...
Im sure i seen Lorenzo in Motogp
crash and it was deployed...
It wasnt a big crash and he could have
got back on but obviously it was still
flopping around...

mind im all for safety mind...
says he who took out my back protector
as it was uncomfortable whilst racing...
well the last thing you want to be thinking of
going round a track as fast as poss is pinching leathers
or nipping gloves...any distraction slows you down...

ill shut up as i sound like some sort of guro or summit
but i learnt alot from 15yrs of going round in circles...
still missing it like mad but where here now..

Still laughing at the elderly protection system hahaha :D

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Dr Mike said...
12,000+ baht kinda pricey!
Holding much respect for your occupation and the help you are offering to the many people of Hua Hin I thought your above sentence to be a little off. Can you really put a price on headware if it works (which the product in question is yet to prove) in saving lives. At 12,000 baht if it truly works well, that is all of 240 quid to ensure you are that little bit safer out on the ever deadly roads of Thailand.
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Rider wrote:So it's time for people to start upping their game and staying sharp out there!
And we've changed the rules a little for this coming season in order to make the sport more competitive. The Railway League Association have decided to scrap the extra time & penalties system to decide who loses, instead adopting the 'golden goals' system, aka ... sudden death :shock: :D


Rider wrote:You either keep with the ways or you risk allowing others to take away the thinking for you. I cannot and will never agree with the latter.
Let's not see HH turned into a minature version of the UK now.
You mean turned into somewhere where none of our loved one's stand a chance of getting accidentally killed by a train when they make a mistake in the dark? What's wrong with that, no-one is talking about speed camera's, meter maiden's etc. I can understand you hating the UK road regime Rider because of your passion and the need for speed, (there are other ways you know :wink: ), but I can't the problem of barriers on these main crossings around town would be, we're gonna be stopped there anyway aren't we!? Or it least some flashing lights so people know they're approaching them.

Ok, we'll be more time stopped there because of their up and down time, but that's a good thing, have you even seen the amount of quality birds the barriered crossings at Soi 55 & Soi 88 attract??? You're guaranteed at least three in either direction, if I'm anywhere close when that barrier warning sound starting, I'm going across. It's like hearing the ice cream van in the summer when you were a kid. I've done more crossings than a Hong kong Star Ferry. Na only kidding, it's never more than 14 a day. And once the barrier is up, we got the whole country to drive on the wrong side of and cause some serious damage to.


There's not a lot that can be done about the roads in general, probably wise to stay and have a load more drinks and wait until there's less traffic on the road before going home, but a few flashing lights could certainly save a few lives. I nearly wiped me and a friend out once and all I was doing was knowingly stopping at the crossing. Totally my fault, but it was on that dodgy Takiab one down Soi 89 (I think), and was driving on the track right next to crossing and very very slowly started to turn through 90 degrees to a point where I could see left out the passenger window whether anything was coming, when my mate shouted at me to stop and a fast train went past about a foot or so away from my bumper. Never heard it at all with music on, not loud though. Without swinging the car to the right a bit before turning left, then to get to a position where you can see out the passenger window, means you'd be just about in contact with a train I reckon.

I lived near a busy crossing all my life in Feltham, and this was after being here 4 years on Soi 94 with it's crossing, but first time ever that getting a car straight on with a crossing would have meant getting scraped. BUT my fault totally, and although a flashing light wouldn't have prevented me being t---, it showed me how easily people can have problems, particularly that Royal Golf course one, that looks nothing like a crossing most foreigners would have seen before.

School kids playing games on their motorbikes has got to worry you too, it was a normal game for 17/18 year old 'adults' in Feltham to play chicken with the crossing gates while driving a car, see if you could get the far side barrier to scrape the boot on it's way down. Obviously once we passed our tests and it was our own cars we were possibly damaging, we stopped :wink:

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Let's not see HH turned into a minature version of the UK now.
UK road deaths fall to record low

The number of people killed on British roads last year reached a record low, according to government statistics.

Some 2,222 people were killed on Britain's roads in 2009, 12% down on the 2008 figure and the lowest annual total since records began in 1926.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10408417
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STEVE G wrote:
Let's not see HH turned into a minature version of the UK now.
UK road deaths fall to record low

The number of people killed on British roads last year reached a record low, according to government statistics.

Some 2,222 people were killed on Britain's roads in 2009, 12% down on the 2008 figure and the lowest annual total since records began in 1926.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10408417
I can't find 2010 USA numbers but 2009 was 33,800. If UK is 65 million, 2,200 is .003%. USA at 300 million is .011%. Pete :cheers:
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