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Dobbelt statsborgerskap tillatt!

Post by Frank La Rue » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:51 pm

Min thalandske kone og jeg har i the thai-norkse miljø og på offentlige fora observert en diskusjon om det er dispensasjon fra den almene norske regel om at man bare kan ha et statsborgerskap om man er norsk. Ingen er kjent med en faktisk love endring men "ryktet" har vært at UDI tolker lovverket dit hen at thaier kan få norsk statborgerskap og beholde sitt Thai statsborgerskap grunnet at Thailand har en militær regjering, altså en Thai kan ansees som politisk flykning. Nedenfor er email teksten jeg sente til UDI på deres hjemmeside:

Fritekstfelt: MIN KONE ER THAI. DET FINNES EN DISKUSJON IN DET OFFENTLIGE ROM AT PERSONER MED THAI STATSBORGERSKAP KAN SØKE ON NORSK PASS OG BEHOLDE SITT THAI STATSBORGERSKAP. ÅRSAKEN SKAL VÆRE GRUNNET I DEN MILITÆRE SITUASJONEN I THAILAND.
MEDFØRER DETTE RIKTIGHET?


Her er svaret jeg fikk:


Vi viser til e-posten du sendte oss 27. mars 2016.

Thailandske borgere som innvilges norsk statsborgerskap, får beholde sitt thailandske statsborgerskap. Dette betyr at de da har dobbelt statsborgerskap.




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Post by Bluesky » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:12 pm

Frank, I normally enjoy reading your posts, somehow this time, something has gotten lost in the translation!

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Post by Frank La Rue » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:18 pm

Bluesky wrote:Frank, I normally enjoy reading your posts, somehow this time, something has gotten lost in the translation!


LOL! I posted this in my native language under the Nordic Section, as my mail to the authorities in Norway and their resoonse is in Norqwegian and the topic is direclty relveant only for Thais living in Norway or having a connetion with Norway. I did post a similar version in english for the case that Norwegians like myself, browse the english sections on this board rather than the Nordic section. You can read about the issue in the english version "Dual Citicenship"
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Post by Norseman » Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:25 pm

Jeg kjenner flere thailandske kvinner som kom til Norge i siste halvdel av 1980 årene og de har hatt dobbelt statsborgerskap i hele denne perioden. Det samme gjelder forøvrig også barna deres.
At vi har hatt en militær makt overtakelse i Thailand er ikke noe nytt, så dette kan umulig være årsaken til ryktespredningen i Norge.
Du har jo også mottatt svar fra UDI som bekrefter at denne praksisen med dual citizenship er fullt lovlig og da får man jo bare takke de høyere makter for en god løsning og praksis.

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Post by Buakow » Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:11 pm

Ja, har heller aldri hørt om noen som ikke får beholde begge statborgerskapene, min kone er i ferd med å søke nå, det har vel gått ca. 5 mnd., men vi leste på UDI siden at det kunne ta opp mot 10 mnd. med behandling av søknad.
Disse 10 mnd. er som vi har forstått ikke fastlåst, for det har noe med arbeidsmengden de har, og nå som alle flyktningene har ankommet Norge, så kan det sikkert ta enda lenger tid.

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Post by Saravuth sangsatra » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:32 pm

In the past,thai women with foreign citizenship and children born by thai women overseas HAD dificulties to return to homeland(thailand) due to citizenship.In 1992(2535 act.) by proposal of King Rama9 to ease for those thais,the nationality act changed.All child born by thai mother wherever will have the right to thai citizenship.
Many thai women which married to foreigners and changed citizenship,could from there on hold a thai citizen automaticly and return home as thai.
Many uneducated rural thai women married foreigners emigrated and couldn't adept to those places nor couldn't they return to homeland.It's was tragedy.Thanks to this nationality act. I could return to my homeland and my kid being a thai.How grateful I am!cheers.
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Post by Norseman » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:37 pm

Everything in life is based on education, right information and so on. If what you are saying, (stating) is correct, I would say that the Foreign Department of Thailand doesn't provide nor protect their citizens enough.

BUT, on the other hand I believe your information is either misleading info. or quite wrong due to the fact that Thailand is a highly respected member of the UN and citizenship is one critical factor of applying such membership.
Thai foreign department issued the uneducated *rural' women a passport, thus enabling the authorities to track down their citizenship so they could easily return to their homeland.
Dual citizenship is still legal and if any person born in Thailand would like to return they can do so.
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Post by Saravuth sangsatra » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:40 pm

As norsman said my state was incorrect,my apologise.I didnt express clear enough,but dont let me missunderstood.rural uneducated was erratic and too rough word.Sorry.!I mean lack of education women(bar girls)Its was one of MINOR reason to this act as the booklet informed readers in prelude.I purchased this book from Tammasart University and took it to the official to state my kids right to citizenship,this process been delayed and finished after 15 years.Puuh.
I reply to this post as close friends chatting NOT legal statement,my lack of education wouldn't let me to do neither.he he!I mayby missunderstand the purpose of whole thing.If dear moderator found it unsuitable,do please delete my comments.Krub.with all my respect and regards.
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Re: Dobbelt statsborgerskap tillatt!

Post by jorn » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:09 pm

Ifølge denne artikkelen i VG - 22/7 - er det ikke tillatt med dobbelt statsborgerskap ennå.
Om det er noen spesialordning for kvinner fra Thailand, vet jeg ikke, men det virker jo litt rart...

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/vens ... /24100930/
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