Will Christiano Ronaldo dare play in England again?

[NicFrenchy]

Big Boy, I can understand the grief over Cheaters, but in all honesty, it's not Ronaldo's fault (even if he is the Principal actor).
In my eyes, there is only 1 institution to blame for this : FIFA

and who other than the Brits can claim this ?

As long as FIFA will not do a thing to Improve referreeing, or punish Cheaters, this will continue to go on.

Remember the "Hand of God" ? I am sure you do.... well, why Was Argentina not Stripped from their Title that year? they surely don't deserve it.

Lack of punishment from Fifa and Officials is what pushes people to Cheat.

[NicFrenchy]

"Portugal have seen four opposing players sent off, a figure with which they lead all other nations at the 2006 finals. This may say something about Portugal's tactics"

Extract from the Following article in Bkk Post : http://www.bangkokpost.com/Sports/03Jul2006_sport02.php

[Guess]

A lot of anger here and some pertinent points with racism poking its ugly nose in albeit My understanding of what happened ties up with Wanderlust's description.

A few things I would like to say are:

Rooney is a complete twat although he has some talent as a footballer. I saw the video, when the game was stopped, of him pushing Renaldo with both hands. Whether or not this should have been a red card or not is irrelevant. As the rules stand at the moment it is. You can't blame Renaldo for the rules.

Renaldo is also very talented but has had a history of play acting but does seem to be be improving. What he puts on his hair has nothing to do with anything discussed here and has about as much relevance as Beckham's underwear.

One of the reasons that I did not see this incident live is because the match was becoming so boring that I played a couple of games of pool at the time to relieve the monotony. To me it was just a matter of when Portugal won the match, not if.

Nothing that heppend in this incident put England out of the World Cup. England went out because they scored less penalties than Portugal.

Here is a quote from an English gambling site (sorry khun Taksin you will never stop me) where patriotism and bollocks goes out of the window in favour of the real passioin of money.

England created few good chances, were reduced to 10 men when Wayne Rooney revealed his true thuggish colors and trampled on a Portugese player who was lying on the ground, but they saved the worst for the penalties. England missed three of four, and only Hargreaves managed to score one. It is no coincidence that Hargreaves is half-Canadian, half-Welsh, has never played soccer in England, and is viewed by many yobbo fans as "not a true Englishman" -Hargreaves showed heart, courage, and self-confidence, the very qualities that English soccer has glaringly lacked for the last 40 years.

Damn good summing up I think.


I T A L I A

[splitlid]

arrrrr thank you guess,

please accept the fact people, that england played shite,
if they were any good they would still be in the world cup.

bunch of tarts and pre-madonnas the lot of em.

[Harry]

please accept the fact people, that england played shite,
if they were any good they would still be in the world cup.

But Portugal have played shite & they are still in in.

Resign Blatter, and take your corrupt cronies with you Sign here. It just takes a few seconds.

[Guess]

..............Look at the teams, England, Brazil, Argentina plus the Ukraine, much better quality of teams been knocked out than is left in the comp. Can you imagine how boring the final will be if it between Italy & France. It does not bear thinking about does it.

Surprising comment from a Blue. You must have been watching a re-run of the 1966 world cup.

In any knockout situation a couple of surprise teams will emerge. In the case of Ukraine vs Switzerland either side would have been the odd one out of the eight. Spain should have been there on merit but failed when they neared the big occassion.

As for the last eight it was almost exactly as expected, and IMO the four best teams were Germany, Italy France and Argentina (in that order). Portugal have got in and Argentina knocked out purely by the luck of the knockout draw. Now we have the situation where the two best teams of the four play each other and the next best two play each other meaning that one of the best two teams in the tournament will not reach the final.

This is what knockout competitions are all about. If the English FA Cup worked perfectly then the top and second premiership sides would always be in the final. Although this happened all too many times in the Arsenal, Manu dominated era, on most years it does not happen and a much lower ranked side gets to the final. This is obviously going to happen in the World Cup aswell once the knockout stages are reached.

Forget the past just look forward to the superb entertaining final between Italy and France. They were were finalists in the 2000 Eurpoean Championship and the final proved to be the best match in the tournament. It will also by a fiting farewell to some of the greatest players of the last decade.

I T A L I A

[NicFrenchy]

Forget the past just look forward to the superb entertaining final between Italy and France. They were were finalists in the 2000 Eurpoean Championship and the final proved to be the best match in the tournament. It will also by a fiting farewell to some of the greatest players of the last decade.

FRANCE

I could not have said it Better

[Heebio]

It does not matter who Ronaldo plays for every time he steps on an English football ground he will cop it from everywhere.
It has been said that there is a book on whether Rooney chins Ronaldo on the training ground before the start of the season. Would be interesting to be attanding the training sessions.

Personally I thought Peter Crouch done a much better job of playing on his own up front in the time that he was on the pitch than Rooney had done in all the previous games. It gave the opposition somethimg to think about in how to stop him.

In Rooney, it was easy, wind him up, wait for him to loose his temper and off he would go. I thought that in his time on the pitch Crouch posed a much bigger threat to Portugal than Rooney had ever done. He was awkward to get the ball off, posed a threat in the air (something the angry ant had never done), and gave a lot of one touch passes to teamates that bought them into the game.

I do think that if we had had Crouch and Rooney up front together, we would have had a lot more success.
With Crouch taking the punishment and providing all the little touches and flicks for Rooney we may have at least had some chances in the box to score. As Rooney on his own was restricted to was a lot of long range shooting and nothing else

I hope that Rooney cops all of the crap that David Beckham did after he got sent off against Argentina (while he might not apprecioate it), it may make him grow up and realise that he cannot go around on the international football stage, throwing his weight around and leaving his foot in places where it should not be.
He deserves all the crap that he gets and will take peoiple a long time to forget what he did.

At last, someone who actually knows about football. Agree 100% Chelsea.

Crouch did nothing wrong and didn't deserve to be dropped. But in order to accomodate Gerrard and Lampard in a more attacking role they had to go five in midfield, with either Hargreaves or Carrick playing the holding role. This left only one spot upfront and as soon as Rooney was fit (?) there was no contest. Eriksson's decision to gamble on taking him, coupled with the English media pressure, left him with no option but to drop Crouch. I personally think they could have gone with three at the back, Ferdinand, Terry and Carragher are all ball players, and played Crouch and Rooney upfront. But it's all by the by now anyway...

Fot those who haven't noticed, the referee has officially stated that Rooney was sent off for the stamp, not for the push on Ronaldo. So although Ronaldo was trying to exploit the situation, Ericksson had so kindfully set up for all of England's opponents by his sheer ignorance of selection and tactics, he'd nowt to do with the red card.

Pains me to say it but you guys could have won it this time, with any other manager at the helm.

Hibs'll take Ronaldo if he's not wanted at Utd. Not that we need him after our 5-0 win in the mighty Intertoto Cup yesterday.

Keep whining boys.

Cheers.

[higgy]

As a fervant Man Utd fan we obviously have major problems in the camp.As has been said it was not Ronaldo that put us out of the World Cup but poor performances from our so called "World class players"
Beckham was villified all over the country when he was sent off against Argentina and was booed at every ground.United players are used to the boo boys but which one will they boo next season?
Sir Alex will sort em all out methinks.

[Harry]

^ I reckon ole purple nose's time is up at Man U. They won the European cup, rather luckily imo and have done nothing ever since.

And reports from people watching the England game at the Brandenburg gate say all the German fans there were supporting Portugal. I suppose they have a common history of fascist dictatorships.

And not looking for a scapegoat, try --> I hate Ronaldo

[Big Boy]

My personal opinion (which some of you seem to be missing), is that Rooney deserved to be sent off. I have no qualms at all with that decision - if a world class player cannot control his temper, then he aint a world class player.

My objection is the fact that some teams have deliberately gone out of their way to cheat (and maybe even buy) their way to success. If England were not good enough, so be it. I enjoyed the banter while it lasted, and take pride in the fact that they were never beaten in a game of football.

I have sent Guess a video clip of the Italian team practicing their cheating - surprisingly, he has not managed a comment on that one - he's commented on everything else so far.

I don't know if you've seen as much of Ronaldo taunting Rooney on Thai TV, but on UK TV it is very evident that it was a plan to cheat, which was executed perfectly. - that is not football!

A lot of you guys, seem to be missing the point, and are condoning play acting and cheating - if that's what you like, then you can not seriously say that you like football.

[Harry]

[chelsea]

Big Boy, if it was the same one that I saw here in Australia, I am pretty sure it was some kind of wind up, as it did not appear on tele here until after the Australia game that they lost on that penalty.
Did not see anything of it until then and just thought it was the normal Aussie whining that we have to put up with here every time they loose at sport.

[NicFrenchy]

I have sent Guess a video clip of the Italian team practicing their cheating - surprisingly, he has not managed a comment on that one - he's commented on everything else so far.

I believe it.
I played Football 15 years at a Regional level in France and the year we had an Italian Coach, he had us Practice Penalties.... his idea was that 2 guys woudl run side by side (1 defenseman and 1 striker) and once in the box, the striker would fall and the Coach was telling it if it was believable or not.
Basically, we were practicing "falling down" on purpose to increase our Chances that the refs would believe it was a foul.

True Story

[Bamboo Grove]

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