In my humble experience, Consulates will not issue a Multiple Entry ED Visa. However, this does not present a problem if you wish to have a short trip outside Thailand. Re-Entry Permit readily available at your friendly Immigration Office.
Cheers, Bapak
Study Thai in Hua Hin with a one year ED visa
Which brings me back to where I started - with a single entry ED visa extended for 90 day periods for study period (perhaps up to 3 years) - and 3 months validity from issue. Below would tend to indicate that a multiple entry non immigrant ED visa (even if possible) is no different from a normal non immigrant O visa in respect of exiting and re-entering Thailand every 90 days.bapak wrote:In my humble experience, Consulates will not issue a Multiple Entry ED Visa. However, this does not present a problem if you wish to have a short trip outside Thailand. Re-Entry Permit readily available at your friendly Immigration Office.
Cheers, Bapak
From Thai Consulate website (Hull) - sorry, not allowed to post the link:
NON-IMMIGRANT VISA
If your purpose of visiting Thailand is other than tourism you must be in possession of a valid Non-Immigrant Visa before you enter Thailand. The Non-Immigrant Visa can be issued only by the Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate and it must be obtained before you arrive in Thailand. It is not possible to obtain this visa in Thailand.
The Non-Immigrant Visa can be granted for the following purposes of visit:-
Category “B” conduct business as employee of non Thai company or to work for Thai company.
Category “ED” study, attend/participate in seminar /conference / exhibition, attend as official at a recognised event, study Thai boxing, etc) and study as Buddhist monk. This category does not allow paid employment.
Category “O” visit friends/family, for extended stay in Thailand, visit as UK pensioner, to work as a volunteer, attend training course (teaching English, scuba diving, etc) and to seek work/employment. This
category does not allow paid or unpaid employment without a work permit.
If your purpose of visit is other than as above please contact us for advice
The Non-Immigrant Visa is available with a single entry or with multiple entries - there is nothing between these two options. The single entry visa has a validity of three months from date of issue. The multiple entry visa has a validity of twelve months from date of issue. On arrival in Thailand each entry allows a stay of maximum 90 days. The fee for the single entry version is £45. The fee for the multiple entry version is £100.
If you have been granted a Non-Immigrant Visa please note the following:-
c) With a ONE entry Non-Immigrant Visa you must ensure you enter Thailand within the validity
of the visa which will be 3 months from date of issue.
d) With a MULTIPLE entry Non-Immigrant Visa you must ensure you enter Thailand on your final
visit before expiry of the visa which will be 12 months from date of issue.
When you first arrive in Thailand and pass through Thai Immigration you will be granted a 90-day stay and you will receive a stamp in your passport giving the date you enter (ADMITTED) and the date by which you must exit (UNTIL). It is most important not to stay in Thailand beyond that exit (UNTIL) date or you will be fined when leaving the country and you could be detained. If you have a Non-Immigrant Visa with a Multiple Entries you can re-enter for as many further stays as you wish, each allowing maximum 90 days, within the validity of the visa. It is not permitted to stay continuously in Thailand for more than 90 days but with a multiple entry visa if you wish to stay in Thailand for a further 90 days it is necessary for you to visit a convenient Thai Immigration Border Control Office on about day 88 of your 90-day stay, exit Thailand and immediately re-enter to activate your next 90-day stay. You can keep doing this every 85-90 days whilst your visa remains valid. When you come to the end of your only or final 90-day stay you must leave Thailand and you cannot re-enter until you obtain a new visa. Please bear in mind it is highly unlikely that you will be able to obtain this type of visa from anywhere other than the UK.
Confused.
Last edited by Noz on Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I’ve no personal experience of any of this, but I’ve looked around the web and there are many schools in Thailand clearly stating that you can stay for one year without leaving if you report every 90 days and pay a 1,900 bt administration fee.
It seems that to get this is has to be a school registered as a Thai university as opposed to a diving school or Thai boxing gym or something of that nature which will only get you the 90 days.
It seems that to get this is has to be a school registered as a Thai university as opposed to a diving school or Thai boxing gym or something of that nature which will only get you the 90 days.
Noz,
Difference between Non-Imm 'O' and 'ED' is that with 'Ed' you extend every 3 months at an immigration office, with 'O' you have to leave the country. You never have to leave Thailand if you don't want to for a year with the 'ED' visa.
SJ
Difference between Non-Imm 'O' and 'ED' is that with 'Ed' you extend every 3 months at an immigration office, with 'O' you have to leave the country. You never have to leave Thailand if you don't want to for a year with the 'ED' visa.
I put up a picture of one before which was issued in Penang. The schools prepare the paperwork and confirm it can be obtained from a local Asian country.When you come to the end of your only or final 90-day stay you must leave Thailand and you cannot re-enter until you obtain a new visa. Please bear in mind it is highly unlikely that you will be able to obtain this type of visa from anywhere other than the UK.
SJ
[quote="Super Joe"]Noz,
Difference between Non-Imm 'O' and 'ED' is that with 'Ed' you extend every 3 months at an immigration office, with 'O' you have to leave the country. You never have to leave Thailand if you don't want to for a year with the 'ED' visa.
Correct, Super Joe...
I have never seen a multi entry ED Visa.... but if you had one, you would have to exit prior to 90 days and re-enter.
The single entry ED visa requires a visit to your local immigration office prior to the expiration of 90 days with passport and a letter from the Education Department (obtained by the student's school)... The permisiion to stay will then be extended for a further 90 days. Immigration charge a fee of Baht 1,900 for the Extension.
If you need to depart Thailand and return within the validity of the Extension, you will need to obtain a single or multiple Re-Entry Permit.
Regarding Steve G's comments above re licence. The necessary paperwork to be submitted to the Education Department both for the original visa application at a Thai Consulate or the Extension at Immigration, can only be obtained from a school with a licence from the Ministry of Education. The school can teach anything, be it languages, kite flying, spa, Thai tradional massage, etc... as long as both the course and school are approved by the Ministry.
Cheers, Bapak
Difference between Non-Imm 'O' and 'ED' is that with 'Ed' you extend every 3 months at an immigration office, with 'O' you have to leave the country. You never have to leave Thailand if you don't want to for a year with the 'ED' visa.
Correct, Super Joe...
I have never seen a multi entry ED Visa.... but if you had one, you would have to exit prior to 90 days and re-enter.
The single entry ED visa requires a visit to your local immigration office prior to the expiration of 90 days with passport and a letter from the Education Department (obtained by the student's school)... The permisiion to stay will then be extended for a further 90 days. Immigration charge a fee of Baht 1,900 for the Extension.
If you need to depart Thailand and return within the validity of the Extension, you will need to obtain a single or multiple Re-Entry Permit.
Regarding Steve G's comments above re licence. The necessary paperwork to be submitted to the Education Department both for the original visa application at a Thai Consulate or the Extension at Immigration, can only be obtained from a school with a licence from the Ministry of Education. The school can teach anything, be it languages, kite flying, spa, Thai tradional massage, etc... as long as both the course and school are approved by the Ministry.
Cheers, Bapak
Perhaps I am getting senile. No comment please. Thought that I had responded yesterday to this but it is not there so maybe hit the wrong button.m_right wrote:So has anyone actually gotten the visa and gone to the school? Was it worth it? Good school?
Anyhow, many ED Visas have been issued from paperwork provided by TLC. Students from U.K., Germany, USA, Holland, Norway, to say the least.. Some originated from within Thailand and some from paperwork sent to the student's home country to make application to their local Thai Consulate. I understand that there has never been a visa refusal.
"Was it worth it? Good school?" .. I cannot comment on this. Leave it for a student to respond. It would be a breech of privacy for TLC to provide a student's name for contact. However, if you wish to PM me, the mail can be forward to a student(s) with the request for them to respond if they so desire.
Cheers, Bapak
Given the school has only opened quite recently, I doubt whether much feedback is available at the moment. Certainly on the 1 year programme.m_right wrote:So has anyone actually gotten the visa and gone to the school? Was it worth it? Good school?
I am still unclear as to the nature of the single entry ED visa. I contacted the Thai Consulate in Hull (UK) as was told exactly as Noz posted above - i.e. it is the same as any other non immigrant single entry visa - you get 90 days on entry and 90 days on extension. I am confused as to where this 1 year visa/1 year validity comes from. Hull said the multiple entry ED visa was valid for 1 year (leaving every 90 days as has been said) but there was no such validity on a single entry ED visa, and if someone wanted a 1 year ED visa it would have to be multiple entry.
So why would you need a new single entry ED after 1 year if you can theoretically keep extending for the duration of your study?
Hi Fadulator,
My understanding is if you apply in your home country you can get a 1 year Non-Imm 'ED' multi-entry visa (ie: 1 year period of validity for you to use/activate it by entering Thailand). When you enter Thailand you get a 90 day permit to stay stamp and then do 90 day extensions in Thailand, ie: no visa runs.
A single entry visa is what the school can assist you in obtaining in a neighbouring country with their documentation if you are already in Thailand on a different class visa, ie: not yet an 'ED'. This has a validity of 3 months for use. As above you then get 90 day stamp on entry and do 90 day extensions inside Thailand.
I'm not saying this is the only way to obtain these visa classes.
From a Bangkok school website: You can study at least 3 years, but you will be required to have a new visa for every year
From a Pattaya school website: You can study with us up to 3 years but visa renewal is required every year
From a Phuket school website: Once you arrive in Phuket, we can then arrange for this to be extended for up to 1 year without you leaving Thailand
SJ
My understanding is if you apply in your home country you can get a 1 year Non-Imm 'ED' multi-entry visa (ie: 1 year period of validity for you to use/activate it by entering Thailand). When you enter Thailand you get a 90 day permit to stay stamp and then do 90 day extensions in Thailand, ie: no visa runs.
A single entry visa is what the school can assist you in obtaining in a neighbouring country with their documentation if you are already in Thailand on a different class visa, ie: not yet an 'ED'. This has a validity of 3 months for use. As above you then get 90 day stamp on entry and do 90 day extensions inside Thailand.
I'm not saying this is the only way to obtain these visa classes.
Apparently you can not keep extending 90 days for the duration of your study, ie: 3 years, only 1 year on a multi-entry 'ED' visa, you need a new visa every year.So why would you need a new single entry ED after 1 year if you can theoretically keep extending for the duration of your study?
From a Bangkok school website: You can study at least 3 years, but you will be required to have a new visa for every year
From a Pattaya school website: You can study with us up to 3 years but visa renewal is required every year
From a Phuket school website: Once you arrive in Phuket, we can then arrange for this to be extended for up to 1 year without you leaving Thailand
SJ
Hi Joe, thanks for the reply:
Super Joe wrote:Hi Fadulator,
My understanding is if you apply in your home country you can get a 1 year Non-Imm 'ED' multi-entry visa (ie: 1 year period of validity for you to use/activate it by entering Thailand). When you enter Thailand you get a 90 day permit to stay stamp and then do 90 day extensions in Thailand, ie: no visa runs.
This is what's confusing. The UK consulate in Hull were adamant that you had to leave the country every 90 days on a multiple entry ED visa.
A single entry visa is what the school can assist you in obtaining in a neighbouring country with their documentation if you are already in Thailand on a different class visa, ie: not yet an 'ED'. This has a validity of 3 months for use. As above you then get 90 day stamp on entry and do 90 day extensions inside Thailand.
This I understand (and Hull will issue either single or multiple entry visas with documentation from a licenced school).
I'm not saying this is the only way to obtain these visa classes.
From a Bangkok school website: You can study at least 3 years, but you will be required to have a new visa for every year
From a Pattaya school website: You can study with us up to 3 years but visa renewal is required every year
From a Phuket school website: Once you arrive in Phuket, we can then arrange for this to be extended for up to 1 year without you leaving Thailand
My reading of the above is that the first two are talking about multiple entry visas but the third one might be in reference to a single entry ED visa - but again, I don't see why there's a 1 year limit in the case of the single entry visa.
If someone out there has a single entry ED visa can they post a picture or explain how long you can extend for?
It's the Singha, 
Hi again, I spoke to one of the Bangkok schools today and you/Hull are correct, if you choose the multi-entry 'ED' visa you have to leave and re-enter every 90 days, border runs etc.Fadulator wrote:This is what's confusing. The UK consulate in Hull were adamant that you had to leave the country every 90 days on a multiple entry ED visa.
If you go for the single-entry the school obtains documentation from the Ministry of Education that permits you to extend every 90 days at Immigration office within Thailand for a period of upto 1 year. Then you repeat the process and need to obtain a new single-entry visa for the next year.
Apparently the Immigration rules changed in September '07, where before then you could apply for yearly extensions to 'ED" visas, but after that date you could not obtain them if using certain types of schools like these private run one's. Whereas if you were studying at a Thai university for example you can still obtain yearly extensions. Not sure if this only applies to single-entries only or whether multi-entries can not be extended yearly (or 15 months). Anyone know ?
SJ
There are also a few language schools that state you can stay in Thailand on yearly ED visas for TEN years, so i am getting a little sceptical and confused.STEVE G wrote:I’ve no personal experience of any of this, but I’ve looked around the web and there are many schools in Thailand clearly stating that you can stay for one year without leaving if you report every 90 days and pay a 1,900 bt administration fee.
It seems that to get this is has to be a school registered as a Thai university as opposed to a diving school or Thai boxing gym or something of that nature which will only get you the 90 days.
Also, does this course price include the 3 extensions needed per yearly visa i wonder?
Pookie
The views expressed here are my own.......and bloody good they are too !!!! :)
No, the 1,900 Baht 90 day extensions are not included in the price, 'student' pays all visa fees and associated travelling costs, the schools just assist with documentation.
The school's website does state what is included in the price, ie: no visa fees, but could be clearer, seen similar criticisms on other forums about other schools.
10 years!?!? Never seen that one
SJ
The school's website does state what is included in the price, ie: no visa fees, but could be clearer, seen similar criticisms on other forums about other schools.
10 years!?!? Never seen that one
SJ
Yeah.....like you say a bit vagueSuper Joe wrote:No, the 1,900 Baht 90 day extensions are not included in the price, 'student' pays all visa fees and associated travelling costs, the schools just assist with documentation.
The school's website does state what is included in the price, ie: no visa fees, but could be clearer, seen similar criticisms on other forums about other schools.
10 years!?!? Never seen that one
SJ
About the 10 years?
Here the link to the school in questions' Q&A page. Just scroll down a little and you will see where they state the 10 years. I Emailed them and they "confirmed" that fact
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http://www.tlslanguageschool.com/Everything-you-Need-to-Know-about-the-ED-Visa.phpThe views expressed here are my own.......and bloody good they are too !!!! :)